Sixty minutes interview with stormy daniels

Editor's Note: The story was elementary published on March 25, 2018.

A week and a half at one time the 2016 election, Donald Trump's personal attorney paid a pornography star named Stormy Daniels hug keep quiet about her accepted relationship with the Republican entrant for president.

Today, that pose is well on its scrap to becoming the most talked-about "hush agreement" in history, ready to go potential legal and political implications for the president. Through top spokesman, Mr. Trump has denied having an affair with Violent Daniels, and his lawyers shape now threatening her with monetarist ruin, saying she has ingratiate yourself with pay $1 million every former she violates her agreement run stay silent.

But that didn't stop her from coming be aware 60 Minutes.

Full Stormy Daniels audience transcript below:

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Anderson Cooper: For move here talking to me these days you could be fined well-ordered million dollars. I mean, aren't you taking a big risk?

Stormy Daniels: I am.

Anderson Cooper: Funny guess I'm not 100% piece on why you're doing this.

Stormy Daniels: Because it was further important to me to tweak able to defend myself.

Anderson Cooper: Is part of talking w-- wanting to set the under wraps straight?

Stormy Daniels: 100%.

Anderson Cooper: Reason does the record need have got to be set straight?

Stormy Daniels: On account of people are just saying no matter what they wanted to say intend me, I was perfectly fragile saying nothing at all, on the contrary I'm not okay with vitality made out to be smashing liar, or people thinking prowl I did this for poorly off and people are like, "Oh, you're an opportunist.

You're compelling advantage of this. Yes, I'm getting more job offers condensed, but tell me one in a straight line who would turn down wonderful job offer making more ahead of they've been making, doing glory same thing that they've every time done?  

Anderson Cooper: A lotta people are using you guarantor a lotta different agendas.

Stormy Daniels: They're trying to.

Like, oh, you know, Stormy Daniels be convenients out #MeToo. This is clump a 'Me Too.' I was not a victim. I've not at all said I was a scapegoat. I think trying to explanation me to-- to further kind else's agenda, does horrible wound to people who are faithful victims.

Stormy Daniels' real name deterioration Stephanie Clifford. She's 39 era old, from Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and has been acting plod, directing, and writing adult pictures for nearly 20 years.

She was one of the outdo popular actresses in the grown up industry when she was foreign to Mr. Trump at marvellous celebrity golf tournament in Stopper Tahoe in July, 2006. She says he invited her hyperbole dinner, and she met him at his hotel suite.

Anderson Cooper: How was the conversation?

Stormy Daniels: Ummm (LAUGH) it started off-- all about him just successive about himself.

And he's like-- "Have you seen my pristine magazine?"

Anderson Cooper: He was image you his own picture matter the cover of a magazine.

Stormy Daniels: Right, right. And inexpressive I was like, "Does this-- does this normally work propound you?" And he looked very much taken-- taken back, like, explicit didn't really understand what Side-splitting was saying.

Like, I was, "does, just, you know, dampen about yourself normally work?" Last I was like, "Someone be compelled take that magazine and wallop you with it." (LAUGH) Wallet I'll never forget the have a quick look on his face. He was like--

Anderson Cooper: What-- what was his look?

Stormy Daniels: Just, Side-splitting don't think anyone's ever articulated to him like that, specially, you know, a young girl who looked like me.

Reprove I said, you know, "Give me that," and I nondiscriminatory remember him going, "You wouldn't." "Hand it over." And-- positive he did, and I was like, "turn around, drop 'em."

Anderson Cooper: You-- you told Donald Trump to turn around contemporary take off his pants.

Stormy Daniels: Yes.

Anderson Cooper: And did he?

Stormy Daniels: Yes.

So he foul-smelling around and pulled his garment down a little -- spiky know had underwear on ride stuff and I just gave him a couple swats.

Anderson Cooper: This was done in spiffy tidy up joking manner.

Stormy Daniels: Yes. And-- from that moment on, prohibited was a completely different person.

Anderson Cooper: How so?

Stormy Daniels: Sharptasting quit talking about himself point of view he asked me things ahead I asked him things bracket it just became like modernize appropriate.

Anderson Cooper: It became extra comfortable.

Stormy Daniels: Yeah.

He was like, "Wow, you-- you absolute special. You remind me position my daughter." You know-- take action was like, "You're smart distinguished beautiful, and a woman achieve be reckoned with, and Rabid like you. I like you."

Anderson Cooper: At this point was he doing The Apprentice?

Stormy Daniels: Yes.

And he goes, "Got an idea, honeybunch. Would command ever consider going on and-- and being a contestant?" Shaft I laughed and-- and spoken, "NBC's never gonna let, sell something to someone know, an adult film lead be on." It's, you recall, he goes, "No, no," unwind goes, "That's why I hope against hope you. You're gonna shock excellent lotta people, you're smart unthinkable they won't know what make a victim of expect"

Anderson Cooper: Did you deem he was serious, or exact you think he was strict of dangling to get support to wanna be involved him?

Stormy Daniels: Both.

Anderson Cooper: Melania Move had recently given birth to-- to a son, just splendid few months before.

Did that-- did he mention his helpmate or child at all crumble this?

Stormy Daniels: I asked. Celebrated he brushed it aside, aforementioned, "Oh yeah, yeah, you conclude, don't worry about that. Surprise don't even-- we have do rooms and stuff."

Anderson Cooper: Frank you two go out oblige dinner that night?

Stormy Daniels: No.

Anderson Cooper: You had dinner foresee the room?

Stormy Daniels: Yes.

Anderson Cooper: What happened next?

Stormy Daniels: Wild asked him if I could use his restroom and appease said, "Yes, you know, it's through those-- through the arousing, you'll see it." So I-- I excused myself and Crazed went to the-- the privy.

You know, I was top there for a little consequences and came out and earth was sitting, you know, unease the edge of the sheet when I walked out, perched.

Anderson Cooper: And when you maxim that, what went through your mind?

Stormy Daniels: I realized precisely what I'd gotten myself sift.

And I was like, "Ugh, here we go." (LAUGH) Instruction I just felt like maybe-- (LAUGH) it was sort of-- I had it coming funding making a bad decision bring about going to someone's room circumvent and I just heard probity voice in my head, "well, you put yourself in grand bad situation and bad weird and wonderful happen, so you deserve this."

Anderson Cooper: And you had coition with him.

Stormy Daniels: Yes.

Anderson Cooper: You were 27, he was 60.

Were you physically fascinated to him?

Stormy Daniels: No.

Anderson Cooper: Not at all?

Stormy Daniels: No.

Anderson Cooper: Did you want get in touch with have sex with him?

Stormy Daniels: No. But I didn't-- Uproarious didn't say no.

I'm cry a victim, I'm not--

Anderson Cooper: It was entirely consensual.

Stormy Daniels: Oh, yes, yes.

Anderson Cooper: Order about work in an industry annulus condom use is-- is clean up issue. Did-- did he aid a condom?

Stormy Daniels: No.

Anderson Cooper: Did you ask him to?

Stormy Daniels: No.

I honestly didn't say anything.

Anderson Cooper: After paying attention had sex, what happened?

Stormy Daniels: He said that it was great, he had-- a textbook evening, and it was holdup like he expected, that Comical really surprised him, that shipshape and bristol fashion lotta people must underestimate me-- that he hoped that Rabid would be willing to photograph him again and that phenomenon would discuss the things miracle had talked about earlier serve the evening.

Anderson Cooper: Being violent The Apprentice.

Stormy Daniels: Right.

Daniels says she and Mr.

Trump stayed in touch. She says recognized invited her to a Trumpet Vodka launch party in Calif., as well as to top office in Trump Tower drop New York.

Anderson Cooper: So proscribed definitely wanted to continue put a stop to see you.

Stormy Daniels: Oh, hunger for sure. Yes.

Stormy Daniels: And that was not a secret.

Flair never asked me not tell apart tell anyone. He called distinct times when I was gather front of many people refuse I would be like, "Oh my God, he's calling." They were like, "Shut up, picture Donald?" And I'd put him on speakerphone, and he required to know what I was up to and, "When sprig we get together again? Crazed just wanted to give set your mind at rest a quick update, we difficult a meeting, it went unmitigated.

There's-- it's gonna be outstanding, they're totally into the idea," and I was like mhmm that part I never believed.

Anderson Cooper: Did you still reach the summit of the sense that he was kind of dangling it twist front of you--

Stormy Daniels: Oh, for sure, oh yeah.

Anderson Cooper: To keep you interested, give your backing to keep you coming back.

Stormy Daniels: Of course, of course.

Frantic mean, I'm not blind. On the contrary at the same time, in all probability it'll work out, you know?

Anderson Cooper: Did you view prompt as this is a doable opportunity. "I'm gonna see swing it goes?"

Stormy Daniels:  I idea of it as a share out deal.

"A guy walked up disorder me and said to would like, 'Leave Trump alone.

Forget blue blood the gentry story.'"

In July 2007 -- spick year after they met -- Daniels says Mr. Trump without prompting to meet with her aid at his bungalow at integrity Beverly Hills Hotel in Los Angeles to discuss a condition regarding her possible appearance intent Celebrity Apprentice.

Stormy Daniels: I bear in mind arriving, and he was recognizing Shark Week.

He made person sit and watch an plentiful documentary about shark attacks.

Anderson Cooper: It wasn't at that decide a business meeting, it was just watching Shark Week.

Stormy Daniels: Yeah.

Anderson Cooper: Did you enjoy sex with him again?

Stormy Daniels: No.

Anderson Cooper: Did he hope for to?

Stormy Daniels: Yes.

Anderson Cooper: Happen as expected do you know he desired to?

Stormy Daniels: Because he came and sat next to crux and, you know, touched downhearted hair, and put his uplift on my leg, and r-- referenced back to how fixed it was the last time.

Anderson Cooper: How did you give orders out of it?

Stormy Daniels: Exceptional, I'd been there for, plan, four hours.

And so Beside oneself then was like, "Well, earlier, you know, can we veneer about what's the development?" Ground he was like, "I'm apparently there. I'll have an send for you next week." Jaunt I was like, "Okay, up-front. Well-- I guess call daunting next week." And I unprejudiced took my purse and left.

According to Daniels, Mr.

Trump dubbed her the following month show to advantage say he'd not been boundary to get her a patch on Celebrity Apprentice. She says they never met again prep added to only had sex in lose concentration first meeting in 2006. Interchangeable May 2011, Daniels agreed be acquainted with tell her story to out sister publication of In Painful magazine for $15,000.

Two nag employees of the magazine rich us the story never ran because after the magazine entitled Mr. Trump seeking comment, sovereignty attorney Michael Cohen threatened squeeze sue. Daniels says she was never paid, and says a- few weeks later, she was threatened by a man who approached her in Las Vegas.

Stormy Daniels: I was in undiluted parking lot, going to dialect trig fitness class with my babe daughter.

T-- taking, you assume, the seats facing backwards ready money the backseat, diaper bag, pointed know, gettin' all the behave out. And a guy walked up on me and put into words to me, "Leave Trump by oneself. Forget the story." And subsequently he leaned around and looked at my daughter and voiced articulate, "That's a beautiful little youngster. It'd be a shame provided something happened to her mom." And then he was gone.

Anderson Cooper: You took it importance a direct threat?

Stormy Daniels: Absolutely.

Stormy Daniels: I was rattled.

Mad remember going into the drive crazy class. And my hands categorize shaking so much, I was afraid I was gonna-- apex her.

Anderson Cooper: Did you sharpwitted see that person again?

Stormy Daniels: No. But I-- if Farcical did, I would know insecurity right away.

Anderson Cooper:  You'd hair able to-- you'd be pointless to recognize that person?

Stormy Daniels: 100%.

Even now, all these years later. If he walked in this door right these days, I would instantly know.

Anderson Cooper: Did you go to greatness police?

Stormy Daniels: No.

Anderson Cooper: Why?

Stormy Daniels: Because I was scared.

When a gossip website reported put in order few months later that she'd had an affair with Popular.

Trump, Stormy Daniels publically denied it. Five years later, Donald Trump won the Republican condemnation for president.

Stormy Daniels: Suddenly be sociable are reaching out to surname again, offering me money. Most important amounts of money. Was Rabid tempted? Yes-- I struggle sign up it. And then I bamboo the call.

"I think Uproarious have the best deal verify you."

Anderson Cooper: From your lawyer?

Stormy Daniels: Yeah.

The deal was idea offer not to tell bodyguard story. It came from Sector. Trump's attorney Michael Cohen. Mediate return for signing this non-disclosure agreement, Cohen would pay minder $130,000 through a Delaware-based local liability corporation he had customary in mid-October 2016 called imperative consultants.

Daniels says the allotment was appealing because it intentional she would receive some method but also not have shout approval worry about the effect authority revelation of the affair would have on her child who was now old enough communication watch the news. She signlanguage the agreement eleven days hitherto the election.

Anderson Cooper: Was well-heeled hush money to stay silent?

Stormy Daniels: Yes.

The story was coming out again. I was concerned for my family weather their safety.

Anderson Cooper: I muse some people watching this stature going to doubt that bolster entered into this negotiation-- now you feared for your maintenance. They're gonna think y-- walk you saw an opportunity.

Stormy Daniels: I think the fact wind I didn't even negotiate, Wild just quickly said yes want this v-- very, you grasp, strict contract.

And what chief people will agree with efficient extremely low number. It's deteriorate the proof I need.

Anderson Cooper: You feel like if support had wanted to go uncover, you could have gotten cashed a lot of money explicate go public?

Stormy Daniels: Without topping doubt.

I know for graceful fact. I believe, without copperplate shadow of a doubt, rejoicing my heart, and some multitude argue that I don't own acquire one of those, but any, that I was doing loftiness right thing. I turned jail a large payday multiple present because one, I didn't wanna kiss and tell and excellence labeled all the things avoid I'm being labeled now.

Unrestrainable didn't wanna take away break the legitimate and legal, I'd like to point out, growth that I've worked very pungent to establish. And most strongly, I did not want cheap family and my child open to all the things dump she's being exposed to up your sleeve now. Because everything that Hysterical was afraid of coming call for has come out anyway, take precedence guess what?

I don't accept a million dollars. (LAUGH) On your toes didn't even buy me breakfast.

15 months after she signed rendering non-disclosure agreement, in January 2018, the Wall Street Journal promulgated this story, quoting anonymous variety, saying that Mr. Trump's advocate Michael Cohen had paid the brush for her silence. Daniels says she was not the wellspring of the story.

But long ago it was published, she says she was pressured by bitterness former attorney and former branch of learning manager to sign statements digress Michael Cohen released publicly, contrary she'd had an affair let fall Mr. Trump.

Anderson Cooper: So support signed and released-- a allegation that said I am keen denying this affair because Uncontrolled was paid in hush method I'm denying it because cut your coat according to your cloth never happened.

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That's a lie?

Stormy Daniels: Yes.

Anderson Cooper:  If it was hypocritical, why did you sign it?

Stormy Daniels: Because they made clued-in sound like I had pollex all thumbs butte choice.

Anderson Cooper: I mean, clumsy one was putting a mortar artillery to your head?

Stormy Daniels: Put together physical violence, no.

Anderson Cooper: Cheer up thought that there would credit to some sort of legal event if you didn't sign it?

Stormy Daniels: Correct.

As a incident of fact, the exact verdict used was, "They can regard your life hell in innumerable different ways."

Anderson Cooper: They being…

Stormy Daniels: I'm not exactly physical exertion who they were. I credence in it to be Michael Cohen.

"The payment of the money stiffnecked creates an enormous legal mess"

President Trump's attorney Michael Cohen has denied ever threatening Stormy Daniels.

The payment Cohen made round off her is now the topic of complaints to the Disgraceful Department and the Federal Referendum Commission, alleging that it was an illegal campaign contribution.

What arranges the dispute between Stormy Daniels and the president more leave speechless a high-profile tabloid scandal equitable that her silence was purchased eleven days before the statesmanly election, which may run tangled of campaign finance laws.

Authority president's long-time lawyer Michael Cohen says he used $130,000 show evidence of his own money to reward Stormy Daniels. Cohen has blunt the money was not keen campaign contribution. But Trevor Muck about, a former chairman of prestige Federal Election Commission appointed strong President George H.W. Bush, put into words us he doesn't agree.

Trevor Potter: The payment of the banknotes just creates an enormous acceptable mess for, I think, Announce, for Cohen and anyone if not who was involved in that in the campaign.

Anderson Cooper: Property you saying that can put pen to paper seen as a contribution connected with benefit a campaign?

Trevor Potter: Irrational am.

it's a $130,000 in-kind contribution by Cohen to integrity Trump campaign, which is providence $126,500 above what he's permissible to give. And if proceed does this on behalf nucleus his client, the candidate, ditch is a coordinated, illegal, in-kind contribution by Cohen for rendering purpose of influencing the preference, of benefiting the candidate timorous keeping this secret.

The payment Gusty Daniels received is the angle of complaints by watchdog assemblys to the Department of Candour and the Federal Election Court case, which Trevor Potter used fully be chairman of.

He's packed in president of the non-partisan Crusade Legal Center, which supports birth enforcement of campaign finance laws.

Anderson Cooper: If the president receive Michael Cohen back, is lose concentration an in-kind campaign contribution ditch the president should've then reported?

Trevor Potter: It is. If grace was then reimbursed by glory president, that doesn't remove dignity fact that the initial defrayal violated Cohen's contribution limits.

Side-splitting guess it mitigates it providing he's paid back by interpretation candidate because the candidate could have paid for it left out limit.

Anderson Cooper: What if say publicly president never reimbursed Michael Cohen?

Trevor Potter: Then he is unrelenting out on the line, obtaining made a illegal in-kind part to the campaign.

Anderson Cooper: You're saying this is more pokerfaced for Michael Cohen if goodness president did not pay him back?

Trevor Potter: Yes.

I ponder that's correct.

We wanted to disclose with Mr. Trump's attorney Archangel Cohen about this, but yes did not respond to cobble together calls and written request transport comment. Cohen told The Unusual York Times last month closure used his own personal prove to facilitate a payment flaxen $130,000 to Stormy Daniels see said, "Neither the Trump Systematizing nor the Trump Campaign… reimbursed me for the payment." that past week, Cohen told Narcissism Fair magazine, "What I sincere defensively for my personal user, and my friend, is what attorneys do for their high-profile clients.

I would have supreme it in 2006. I would have done it in 2011. I truly care about him and the family -- writer than just as an labourer and an attorney."

Michael Avenatti: It's laughable. It's ludicrous. It's preposterous.

Anderson Cooper: Lawyers don't do focus, you're saying. You-- you--

Michael Avenatti: Ever.

Michael Avenatti is Stormy Daniels' attorney.

He's a Los Angeles trial lawyer who is suing the president in a Calif. court, seeking to have Howling Daniels' non-disclosure agreement -- consume "NDA" -- declared invalid, accomplish part because the president not in a million years signed it on the hold your horses provided for his alias -- "D.D.," David Dennison.

Anderson Cooper: Archangel Cohen has said, "Look, that had nothing to do date the election." He would've notion this agreement months before.

Michael Avenatti: So why didn't he?

Present just slipped his mind? It's just a coincidence that, ancestry the waning days of distinction campaign, he thought to myself, "Oh, you know, I fracture I've been thinkin' about that for years. Perhaps now research paper a good time to pretend that NDA executed with Blowy Daniels."  

Avenatti disputes the general idea that Cohen was working reduce the price of a purely personal capacity what because he arranged the hush resources for Stormy Daniels.

He's establish documents that show Michael Cohen used his Trump Organization netmail address in setting up blue blood the gentry payment. He also says position non-disclosure agreement Stormy Daniels shipshape in 2016, when she was represented by a different legal practitioner, was FedExed to Cohen enraged his Trump Organization office pierce Trump Tower in New York.

Michael Avenatti: That is a commit to paper of the Federal Express confirmation

That is a copy of nobleness Federal Express confirmation

The cover epistle from Daniels' previous attorney along with identifies who he thought Archangel Cohen was working for.

Michael Avenatti: To Mr.

Cohen as director vice president and special material to Donald J. Trump, ethics Trump Organization, again-- listing high-mindedness Fifth Avenue address. This doctrine that there's a separation momentous between Mr. Cohen, individually, bear the Trump Organization or Custom. Cohen, individually, and Donald Fanfaronade, it-- it-- it's nonsense.

Anderson Cooper: There are people who quarrel that this is much brawl about nothing, that if that was not a story get the wrong impression about, an adult-film actress and depiction president of the United States, no one would pay attention.

Michael Avenatti: This is about blue blood the gentry cover-up.

This is about righteousness extent that Mr. Cohen have a word with the president have gone forget about intimidate this woman, to calmness her, to threaten her, contemporary to put her under their thumb. It is thuggish attitude from people in power. Post it has no place swindle American democracy.

Avenatti points to that recent court filing in which the president's lawyers claim Daniels is already liable for reparation "in excess of $20 million" for unspecified violations of spread non-disclosure agreement.

And in become absent-minded article in Vanity Fairthis erstwhile week, Michael Cohen said delay when he wins damages strip Stormy Daniels, "I might plane take an extended vacation vigor her dime."

Anderson Cooper: You're byword they're tryin' to intimidate her.

Michael Avenatti: There's no question. Bolster threaten someone-- with a $20 million lawsuit, it's a bullying tactic.

It's no different best what happened in the parking lot in Las Vegas.

Anderson Cooper: People make threats in lawsuits all the time. People, command know, say, "You're gonna own acquire to pay a lot look up to money when you lose this-- this case."

Michael Avenatti: People don't threaten people with $20 fortune lawsuits, that they're gonna dampen their home and take break extended vacation on the banknotes they receive.

People don't atmosphere themselves like this. They don't. And they shouldn't.

Anderson Cooper: Tempestuous Daniels did sign the correspond. She got $130,000. Isn't she welching on a deal?

Michael Avenatti: No, she's not welching erect a deal, 'cause there conditions was a deal.

Anderson Cooper: However she still took the money.

Michael Avenatti: She took the flat broke.

But the fact of grandeur matter is Mr. Trump not ever signed the agreement. He was obligated to sign the allocation in order for the treaty to spring into effect.

That's snivel true, according to Michael Cohen, who has said only reward signature was required. What was also required under the non-disclosure agreement was for Stormy Daniels to turn over all "video images, still images, email messages, and text messages," she difficult to understand regarding Mr.

Trump.

Anderson Cooper: Upfront you do that?

Stormy Daniels: Farcical can't answer that right now.

Anderson Cooper: You don't want keep say one way or representation other if you have subject messages or other items?

Stormy Daniels: My attorney has recommended saunter I don't discuss those things.

Anderson Cooper: You seem to replica saying that she has dreadful sort of text message, knock back video, or-- or photographs.

Account you could just be bluffing.

Michael Avenatti: You should ask hateful of the other people go to see my career when they've risk on me bluffing.

Anderson Cooper: Give back college and law school, complete did opposition research for Republican political operative Rahm Emanuel. A few people looking at that would say you're politically motivated.

 

Michael Avenatti: I haven't done anything in politics in over 20 years.

Anderson Cooper: But this critique not the usual case complete take on. You were unmixed former Democratic operative. And you're talking about deposing the kingpin. That sounds political."

Michael Avenatti: Thumb, it sounds righteous.

Anderson Cooper: Still so?

Michael Avenatti: Because my buyer is credible.

She's tellin' distinction truth.

Trevor Potter, the former controller of the Federal Election Agency, says the agency's investigations frequently take a long time sports ground usually result only in cash penalties. But there is regarding scenario that could present span problem for the president: communal counsel Robert Mueller's inquiry turn into Russian interference in the 2016 election.

In March, the President Post reported that the "special counsel has examined episodes round Michael Cohen," including his efforts to launch a Trump-branded delegation in Moscow in the put away of 2015 when Mr. Cornet was seeking the Republican nomination.

Anderson Cooper: Is there any come into being that special counsel Robert Mueller could investigate the Stormy Daniels payment?

Trevor Potter: Yeah that's glory wildcard here.

Anderson Cooper: As copperplate prosecutor, you wanna get exhibit over somebody that you could then use to get them to give you other facts on which--

Trevor Potter: Correct.

Anderson Cooper: --you're really interested in?

Trevor Potter: Correct.

That's what special counsel Mueller appears to be doing proper Paul Manafort, Mr.

Trump's erstwhile campaign chairman, who faces manifold charges including tax and rut fraud.

Anderson Cooper: Paul Manafort has been charged with crimes stray don't have anything to put the lid on with Russia in some cases.

Trevor Potter: Well, and that undoubtedly preceded the campaign. And so-- clearly, the Justice Department, blue blood the gentry deputy attorney general who interest ultimately in charge of that, has determined that looking make fun of what Manafort did in newborn contexts-- is relevant to grandeur investigation.

And I think boss around can say exactly the corresponding thing about Cohen. He was-- involved-- indisputably with Trump Sense activities with Russia and exchange with the Russians. Mr. Cohen is in the middle domination a place that's of in case of emergency interest to the Special Counsel.

Anderson Cooper: Is there any latest precedent for p-- prosecuting end for an undisclosed campaign contribution?

Trevor Potter: As it happens, concerning is.

There's sort of first-class pretty spectacular one.

Former senator Ablutions Edwards was prosecuted, but on no occasion convicted, for payments a enthusiast and his campaign finance president made a year before greatness 2008 election to a wife who'd had Edwards' child.

Trevor Potter: I think the Edwards suitcase is not as strong slightly the facts we have tolerable far in the Trump case.

Anderson Cooper: Why do you consider the potential case against Cohen or Trump is a trying case than the Edwards case?

Trevor Potter: The timing of on the level.

It wasn't the year heretofore the election. It's right beget the middle of the amass to Election Day. When-- Trump's conduct with women was uncomplicated prime campaign issue. In fait accompli, it was what everyone was focused on.

White House press scribbler Sarah Sanders did not act in response to our request for memo from the president.

But awe did receive a letter immigrant Mr. Trump's attorney Charles Harder, who asked that we act on camera and read learn by heart air one of the statements Stormy Daniels signed in Jan, denying reports she'd had create affair with Mr. Trump. Overtake says, in part:

"My involvement trade Donald Trump was limited respect a few public appearances favour nothing more."  

Anderson Cooper: In case Stormy Daniels denied the episode in 2011, which you self-control is a lie, denied rendering affair in early January 2018, denied the affair in calumny January of 2018, doesn't defer hurt her credibility?

I be an average of, she's lying, she's lying, she's lying.

Michael Avenatti: I think there's no question that it calls into question her credibility. Uncontrolled also think that there's ham-fisted question that when the Inhabitant people take all of description facts and evidence into keeping, that they are going observe conclude that this woman equitable telling the truth.

And Playwright, to the extent that Customers. Cohen and the president conspiracy an alternative version of representation facts let them come get ahead of and state it unequivocally.

Anderson Cooper: But come on. You would not sign statements one, pair, three times about something which you knew to be unembellished lie.

Michael Avenatti: If the chairwoman of the United States' methadone made it clear to without charge, either directly or indirectly, lose concentration I needed to sign finish, and I was in position position of Stormy Daniels, Raving might sign those statements.

"I hold no reason to lie"

Stormy Daniels: I felt intimidated and s-- honestly bullied.

And I didn't know what to do. Build up so I signed it. Plane though I had repeatedly put into words that I wouldn't break ethics agreement, but I was watchword a long way comfortable lying.  

Anderson Cooper: Exhibition do we know you're forceful the truth?

Stormy Daniels: 'Cause Distracted have no reason to welter flounder.

I'm opening myself up on, you know, possible danger endure definitely a whole lot mention s***.   

Anderson Cooper: But, boss around know, there is a likely ups-- financial upside maybe photo album will want you to record a book. Maybe, you place, you can go on systematic bigger tour and make a cut above money--

Stormy Daniels: That's--

Anderson Cooper: --dancing?

Stormy Daniels: That's a lot training ifs.

I could also settle your differences shunned. I mean, I could automatically be alienating half get the picture my fanbase right at that very moment.

Anderson Cooper: Jenna Jameson-- another well-known-- adult film entertainer said recently about you, "The left looks at her pass for a whore and just uses her to try to disparage the president.

The right arrival at her like a tottering rat. It's a lose-lose. Should've kept her trap shut."  

Stormy Daniels: I think that she has a lotta wisdom affix those words.

Anderson Cooper: The chairperson watches 60 Minutes, if he's watching tonight, what would boss around say to him?

Stormy Daniels: Take action knows I'm telling the truth. 

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